Home Field Advantage: Do you think it exists? This slide share contains some information we talked about in class from: Sports Illustrated, Jan. 17, 2011 “What’s Really Behind Home Field Advantage?” by Tobias J. Moskowitz and L. Jon Wertheim
After discussion, reading and looking at the slide share, what is your opinion of home field advantage? Does it exist? Does it depend on the sport? Do you think there is a certain conference in which fans are louder or more intense? Does the shape and size of the stadium matter? What about NCAA March Madness? Do you think the neutral sites help in 12 vs 5 winning percentage? Does the proximity of a site to the school make a difference? Is there more data or concepts that should be looked at? You must support you reasoning with two ideas from the slide share. Please post your comments to the blog.
Link to 12 over 5 in NCAA basketball tourney: http://www.syracuse.com/axeman/index.ssf/2015/03/2015_ncaa_tournament_how_many_12_seeds_have_defeated_5_seeds.html
I do, and always have believed in home field advantage. Although it may not "make or break" the game, I definitely think it impacts it. I think the shape and size of a stadium would make an impact if its something new to the players. For the home team, they would be used to it, while the away team would have to take time and adapt, thus giving them a disadvantage. Besides this, there could be travel fatigue. Flying and driving for 5 hours opposed to a 5 minute walk to the stadium defiantly can impact the game. Besides this, I think there is a physiological side to this as well. Personally, as a player when I have a home game I get more excited and have a little sense of security. With fans everywhere to cheer you on at home games compared to a small group at away, I do think it makes a difference.
ReplyDeletei also agree that shape and size can make a big impact because away team is not used to the field and need to adapt to it. I also agree with travel fatigue. If its a long drive they wont have as much energy where as if they were home they wouldnt be as tired.
DeleteI agree on how you said the home players are already adapted to the environment of the stadium and how it gives the away players a disadvantage. I also agree on the travel fatigue because I've had that before and it totally sucks and makes it harder to play unlike the other team who didn't have to worry about traveling as far. I like the way you pointed out that you get more excited during home games because I know for a fact everyone can relate to that as well.
DeleteA field is a field. Are the dimensions different?
DeleteThe size is the same but there are so many other variables. The type of hard surface may be different, making it slippery/ hard to move. Lines may be marked in different colors making it a hard adjustment.
DeleteI think HFA does exist and its very strong at times. I think HFA does depend on the sport because the way sports play our are all different. I dont think theres a certain conference that is louder because each conference has the high tier teams and low tier teams. Yes I agree that shape and size of a stadium matters because if you look how the Seahawks stadium is shaped compared to the Browns it has different ways that the echos bounce off and stay in the stadium. I dont think neutral sites matter because each team usually is about 50/50 in fans and I think its just the lower seed having confidence knowing that they are the underdog so they try to play better.
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DeleteI agree with the conferences not having an advantage over any other. Also, I agree with neutral sites not having an impact because tickets are normally sold to both teams at the same price with the same amount that each can buy.
DeleteI think football, basketball, baseball and hockey all have an advantage with how the fans act during the game
DeleteI agree that neutral sites wouldn't matter, and a lot of pro athletes are able to block out all the people that are there.
DeleteI agree with the shape of the arena has an impact because of echoing different stadiums are louder than others.
DeleteI believe home field advantage does exist for many reasons. Many in sports where a stadium is more provident and you need to hear to be successful. No certain conference is louder but possibly ones with more indoor stadiums will be because the sound is trapped inside and tends to be louder. The size of the stadium does matter to be able to hold more fans. Neutral sites do not help in 12v5, but 5 seeded schools tend to have a better fan base as they are the higher seed so more will travel to the games. I don't think neutral sites effect much because of tickets. Sellers will try to split it to both teams evenly. Proximity to the schools or game sites do matter as you ride a bus or get more fans. If you are tired you definitely won't play as well. One thing from the slide is baseball. Maybe at home you will get the same umpire a few time and will know his strike zone better compared to the other team. Another reason in football, Refs tend to side with the home team because of the fans. Fans these days are really crazy about their team winning and have been known to send death threats to refs that don't side with them.
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DeleteI do think the rating of officials could impact how they call a game. The way a coach treats an official will definitely be a factor. If you had a bad past with a certain official and he/she refs a future game of yours, penalties will not go your way.
DeleteI agree with people who have to hear to be successful. At our football games when the crowd is into it and being loud, we tend to play better.
DeleteI agree with your baseball statement because if you have the same ump not only will you know his strike zone but it gives the home team a chance to create a relationship with him and maybe have him send a few close calls sent your way.
DeleteI think that there is a homefeild advantage. There have been many games that I played where the refs make very biased calls whether we're at home or not. Also the people that are at certain games has a huge impact on how the game is going to turn out for someone. If you are at an away game and there aren't a lot of fans there for your team you are only going to hear all of the negative things that their home team is saying to you. There was a game I played last year were the boys lacrosse team stood right out side the fence that was directly next to our bench and they would literally make fun of everything we did, and I know for me it didn't help me focus. Also, I think that teams are built to take advantage of their homefield. I mean you practice on that field practically everyday, if not every week why wouldn't you perform better on a field you know.
ReplyDeleteI also agree that refs can be biased based on who their playing. Also fans do make an impact depending where you are at. At home they can cheer you on and encourage you but if you are away maybe their wont be many fans to encourage you.
DeleteI agree that refs can make many biased calls for the home team and many people get very upset about it because it can take away the other teams hopes if it keeps happening
DeleteThat is very similar to boys lacrosse. We have bias refs very often and have really affected the game is the past.
DeleteI also think that the fans can really encourage you and help play the game! If I see my coach waving me to keep going at the end of a race, I will keep swimming hard, opposed to gradually getting slower.
Deletei think that homefield advantage does exist and i believe every sport has a different advantage that helps them but they all do such as in the slide it is different because some refs have a bigger impact on certain sports. I also believe fans can help and encourage such as if someone is about to score and the fans are getting louder as in the slide "social pressure
ReplyDelete" then i think the player has more confidence and it can encourage them to run faster and score. I do think the shape and size matter because if your not used to the field or court then it can be confusing and could possibly mess up a play. I do think neutral sites help in winning 12 v 5 winning percentage. I also believe the distance is not an avantage because if it is a long drive they could get tired or have no energy which they wouldnt have if they were at the home field.
Taylor Lehmann
Do you think that the travel time applies to pro athletes?
ReplyDeleteYes, I do. With pro athletes they have to travel a lot, and it could be for long amounts of time on a plane or bus. Not only this, the food and surroundings they are used to may not be present. Also, they have a lot more stress and things going through their mind when far away from home.
DeleteI do think that travel time applies to pro atheletes because if their traveling long distances they can become tired and not have as much energy as if they were to play at home. Also they become lazy from long drives from just sitting there for hours so i think they wouldnt perform as well.
DeleteYES! I 100% believe in all sports across the broad has some kind of home court advantages. I think certain conference are different, some places hold more people then others, some fans from around the country may take the sport more/less seriously. I do think the size of the stadium matters, some stadium are build out of different materials maybe cause of the weather that certain place has..some places have a indoor area or maybe a outdoor.
ReplyDeleteWhat about at horse shows? DO you think so of the same ideas apply?
DeleteYeck ya! When i travel to other farms to show horses its a huge change for not only me but also my horse. The rings could be smaller or my horse could be scared of the people watching, there is lots of factors that play in here that could effect my ride when im not at home.
DeleteI agree with the idea that the home field advantage is true, also is was a good thought to include people from other areas, because they can take the sport more or less serious. I disagree with the idea that the stadium doesn't matter, the acoustics of the stadium and how many people it can seat can make a significant difference in noise, possibly swaying the referee.
DeleteIn my opinion, I think home field does exist for multiple reasons. When I am playing a volleyball game at home I am much more relaxed because I am comfortable with my surroundings and familiar with it. More people you know come to your home games so it's more fun and hype. I've heard a lot of people say the refs or umpires are more lenient to the home team and that can be true for some sports. As for the shape and size of the stadium, I think it does matter because some environments will be louder than others and that can either hype you up or bring you down because you can't hear your teammates. The slideshow talks about how the crowd can really affect your playing, showing different percentages on free throw shootings and the difference between them in home and away games, and I think the data is accurate with that.
ReplyDeleteI also think the home field is more comforting to preform on. I feel so much more relaxed when I'm running on our track rather than saline or pioneers track with many of their parents ans students watching us preform.
DeleteI think home-field advantage does exist in almost every sport, in some form of way each stadium is different. I do believe that conferences are more loud and intense because they mean more than just a normal game or meet. I think if you are used to playing in a small stadium then playing in a large stadium would have an affect on you because you wouldn't be used to all the fans cheering and watching you. I do think the proximity of a site makes a difference because after long buss rides my legs will get cramped and get a heavy feeling. If I wasn't sitting on a buss for one hour my legs would have felt much better.
ReplyDeleteDo you think these rules apply to Cross-country? There is less penalty calling/ less officials
DeleteI agree with Olivia here, some places get louder then others, the size of the place could intimidate someone whos not use to it. I think your surroundings matter in a game.
DeleteI completely agree! My legs feel so heavy and my body feels more tired after getting off a longer bus ride.
DeleteI don't think these rules apply too much in cross country. The officials are in charge of making sure our uniforms are the same and that we don't cut the course or start over the line. In track it is a little more strict with line officials at the state meet, making sure you exchange in the right zones and making sure you stay in your lane the whole time.
DeleteI do think these rules apply to cross country, there may be less officials but coaches and other teams will say wrong distances to the finish or wrong times at the mile markers, to throw you off. While if you are at a home meet you know the course and how to run it, you can also tell the real times from fake ones.
DeleteI agree with olivia because I do not think these rules apply in cross country that much. They are strict about dumb and stupid things such as rolling up your shorts.
DeleteI think home field advantage does exist because of the home crowd and how much energy they have it said in the slide and share that if there is a questionable call the ref usually sides with the home crowd. So the bigger the arena and how many fans show up the more likely you are to persuade the ref.
ReplyDeleteI agree that you can persuade the ref to change the calls from the home crowd noise.
DeleteI agree when the fans complain when there is a missed call the ref tends to call it the next time it happens.
DeleteWhat if the fans are farther from the field of play and the refs? for example football there is separation because of the track.
DeleteI think home field advantage is real and I say this because I have been apart of this. The size/shape of the stadium does matter because if it's bigger it will hold a lot more people and it will most likely be louder. I also think certain conferences are louder than others because some are more dedicated than others. Also, whether your team is playing good or bad could determine how loud your fans are being.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the size/shape of the stadium because some stadiums can only hold like 60k which means maybe a little over half for home teams but comparing to a bigger stadium like Michigans which can hold about 110k but still have about 111k in attendance can make a very big difference
Deletei think that home field advantage does exist because the energy in the stadium pumps up the home team and intimidates the other team from all the crowd noise.I dont think that it depends on the sport because you always have your home field or court and sometimes you can persuade the referee to change the call or calls.
ReplyDeletewhat if the other players are focused and feel confident about his/her abilities? Does noise matter as much?
Deleteyes, because sometimes you cant hear play calling and you cant communicate as well with your teamates.
DeleteI believe that the home field advantage does exist and effect peoples playing. It is different with every sport but it is still there. A personal experience i have with home field advantage is in lacrosse. First of all, we practice on a grass field. It really messes up my players when we go to a turf field where the ball and our cleats act differently with the turf then the grass. Another example is with the help of the fans. The morale of the team has been the make-or-break of games in the past, and having the crowd on your side cheering for you can sometimes give you that extra boost of confidence. The morale of the team is also dependent on the bus ride and how far away the stadium is. If there is a super long bus ride people get irritated and not as excited for the game.
ReplyDeleteDo you think that some of the HFA has to do with Lacrosse is just becoming popular here in the mid-west and trying to find coaches and refs is more difficult?
DeleteYes I do. Since Lacrosse is only recently becoming popular, most of the refs we can find were once players from the same schools they are reffing. If someone is reffing their own home town and the team they played for, they will most likely be bias towards them.
DeleteI believe that the "home field advantage" is true. I also believe that it is found in every sport.I say that because the slide show we had just viewed suggested the idea that the home field advantage came from the referee, which is found in almost every sport. The slideshow also explained that it is the social pressure that causes the refs to favor the home team, which leads into the next question. Does the stadium affect the home field advantage? I say yes because the amount of people there and the shape of the stadium can either increase or decrease the sound,which can influence the referee to make bad calls, longer timeouts, or even let penalties go without punishment.
ReplyDeleteI agree, the refs can be bias towards one team or can feel pressured by the audience to make a certain call.
DeleteI think that home field advantage does exist and I do not think it depends on the sport. I think that it effects every sport in different ways. I also think that conference size does effect the fans. The more fans there,the louder and wilder they can be to support their team. The proximity of the site to the school does make a difference because athletes that sit on a bus for a while could become very tired and bored and that could lead to the athletes being more tired in their event. At a home field, you know more people out supporting you and your team which could make the home athletes more hyped and ready.
ReplyDeleteI think that home field advantage exists and I think it czn have a big impact on the game or sport being played. Lots of things contribute to the home field advantage such as atmosphere and fans. I think it would be really hard for a quarter back of an opposing team to play at century link field in Seattle because they have one of the loudest stadiums in sports. I also know from experience for a pitcher in baseball, every place you go to the pitchers mound is different. That can be the difference in the game if it takes you an inning or two to get you used to the mound. I also think travel has a big impact. From my experience, getting up at 6 in the morning to drive 2 hours for a 8:00 game is a lot different than driving 5 minutes for at 8:00 game. I also agree with the slide share, because i have experience officials who favor the home team and can make a difference in the game, but me having a job as an official, i know that they are taught to not do that so i don't think every official does that.
ReplyDeleteDo you get a lot of pressure from parents being an official? Is that something that is taught in a class of not to favor the home team?
DeleteI agree with the travel. Someone who has to wake up earlier and drive farther tend to have the tide against them.
DeleteLots of pressure from parents, and yes, me being an umpire for baseball, i'm taught to not even look at the batter when i'm calling balls and strikes and focus on the strike zone.
DeleteI do believe home field advantage exists. It does not depend on the sport, every sport has a home field. I do not believe there is a certain conference where fans are louder, i tend to believe that all the bigger schools have louder and bigger stadiums then the smaller schools. Yes size and shape have something to do with how loud something is. A bigger stadium is going to be louder than one with not as many seats. Also for shape it needs to have a shape where noise can bounce back towards the playing surface. During March Madness games tend to be played on a neutral surface, but you have to factor in the distance played from one school to the other. Neutral sites do help because they don't have to play at the higher ranked teams home atmosphere. Yes proximity plays a huge role. Someone who has to drive 3 hours legs are going to be way tighter and less ready to go then someone who drives 15 mins. Also in hockey the boards could play a huge difference in the game. For example when the red wings played at Joe Louis Arena the boards were very bouncing and sometimes the would purposely shoot wide for a rebound off the boards to go to someone on the other side of the net.
ReplyDeleteI do believe home field advantage exists but not for every sport. Soccer and baseball are the exceptions to this. I don't necessarily believe that though.There are many reasons why home field advantage exists and according to the slideshow,one of these reasons is because of crowds. It's easier to play hard when you have lots of fans show up and harder when you can't see that there's no one really there cheering for you. I also learned that it has to do with referees and umpires as well. I do think that travel fatigue could be a factor as well. I don't know exactly how it works when teams travel for games, such as MLB teams but I'm sure they get tired and cramped on buses especially. A lot of times the home team arrives before the visiting team which mean they may get more warm up time.In all, I do think home field advantage exists and that it can be largely psychological.
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