Home Field Advantage: Do you think it exists? This slide share contains some information we talked about in class from: Sports Illustrated, Jan. 17, 2011 “What’s Really Behind Home Field Advantage?” by Tobias J. Moskowitz and L. Jon Wertheim
After discussion, reading and looking at the slide share, what is your opinion of home field advantage? Does it exist? Does it depend on the sport? Do you think there is a certain conference in which fans are louder or more intense? Does the shape and size of the stadium matter? What about NCAA March Madness? Do you think the neutral sites help in 12 vs 5 winning percentage? Does the proximity of a site to the school make a difference? Is there more data or concepts that should be looked at? You must support you reasoning with two ideas from the slide share. Please post your comments to the blog.
I feel like it does work but it also plays a role with how the players take it or how well the team works together
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Deletelike how it has a higher when rate or away teams in hockey in shootouts and the could be the crowed isnt in the game anymore or just doesnt see there team winning
Deletein hockey with the home ice advantage the higher ranked team gets an extra game at home so it gives them an advantage on getting pumped up by the fans.it could also work against them because it could make the other team work harder to win the game. either way both teams id say get a boost from it no matter what.
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I believe that there's definitely an advantage to having the home court/Home field. It can effect others differently depending on if you let nerves and haters get to you easy. Home field is nice to have cause you have used that field more and are used to it. It's also nice to have the majority of the fans on your side cheering you on, giving you more energy and the thrill to want to win.
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Specific examples from what is on the blog/ your research?
DeleteI agree with you for the first half and somewhat disagree with you for the point you made that hfa is somewhat caused by being familar with yuor field.The reason i disagree is becasue they didnt mention that point in the lsideshow at all showing it doenst have much effect at all
Deletean example would be stepping up to the plate with a tie ball game 2 outs and a runner on third. you are standing at the plate with everybody on your side behind you rooting you on. That little bit of extra adrenaline gives you the confidence to knock in that winning run.
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I agree with this because I also feel it's definitely an advantage. You are very used to your home field, so you can know all the tricks or tips to playing on it.
DeleteHFA does exist, and its becasue refereese have a bias towards the home team becasue we are oscial animals who tend to give in to peer pressure ,and seek to know info.SInce their are more fans of the home team there a the home game,the larger and more vocal the crowd the bigger the Hfa is
ReplyDeleteWhat sports do you think affect the referee the most?
DeleteSports in which the ref has a greater impact in the game such as football
DeleteI feel like it does work like if a basketball player is at the free throw line, the fans cheering could help him make it.-Makayla wells
ReplyDeleteAlso in any sport when a player is trying to win the game having the fans behind them can motivate them and perhaps help the team win. When a player is doing something important to help the team like pitching hitting the ball or passing the ball they could want to do better do to the fans cheering.-Makayla wells
DeleteI think that it depends on the referee if there is an advantage. I've played games before where some of the calls they make are against the other team, giving us the advantage, but I've also played games where the referees are completely against us on our field. I've also seen games where they'll constantly call us when it's not our field. The slide show says how it's psychology and based on social influence because they are human. This has been proven through an experiment with real matches and video-taped matches. From this, they can see how the fans effect the referees.
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DeleteI completely agree. Referees do usually call more penalties on the other team and often will let the home teams slide by.
DeleteI agree. I've seen softball games where the umpire makes terrible calls in favor of a certain team
DeleteWe've played games where the referees were against us on our own field, but we've also played games where the referees were against us on an opposing field and had games were the referees were more against the other team on our field.
DeleteI agree that the extent of home field advantage depends on the referees.
DeleteI do believe that home field advantage is a real thing. I don't necessarily think that the crowd has too much to do with the players performance but there are many other factors to take into account. These include the referees being biased to the home team, the shape of the field, the weather, and how far the players have to travel. Like it said in the slideshow players that have to travel far get exhausted from the travel. I believe this is probably a much worse case for professional players and not players in high school because we don't travel nearly as far. Another factor that could affect the playing is the elevation of the field you're playing on. It could affect your breathing and the pressure of the air.There are many factors that play into home field advantage.
ReplyDeleteI agree with what you are saying and how traveling does play a role in games. The longer the travel, the more exhausted you can get, which is also stated in the slideshow like you said.
DeleteI do agree with you. When I used to play sports you can tell how biased some of the referees are towards the home team.
DeleteWhat shaped fields do you think are the worst? What sports do you think are the worst for pro athletes with travel?
DeleteI don't know a lot about the shape of fields but I could imagine that it would play a role in how it effects the players. Like some stadiums go down and I could imagine how it would affect the sunlight and the elevation of the field. I think football because you have to have lots of energy to play well.
DeleteI think home field advantage exist. If you have ever watched the NFL you know that. In the slideshow it says whatever the crowd thinks then thats what the refs think. This is also true because at a home game most of the fans there are for the home team, so that means the more fans then the louder they can be. The louder the crowd is at booing the refs the more chance they will get a flag on them waived or a penalty on the other team.
ReplyDeleteDo you think that the crowd noise changes how the players respond at the pro even college level?
DeleteI think that in the college level it does affect the players because they haven't mastered their positions yet. In the pro level I don't think the crowd really affects them because they are so used to the crowd noise and most of the players in the NFL have mastered their positions.
DeletePersonally, I feel home-field/court/track/course has very little advantage. If any, it would only have advantages in the more prideful players as they would scoff at the thought of losing in their own familiar stomping grounds. However, according to sbnation.com, sometimes in team sports, as much as a 20 percent performance increase can happen as a team is playing on their home court. Only 3 of 20 NFL teams played under their best. Oddly enough, NBA has the best home advantage rate at 10 percent avg. It highly depends on the team however. For example, in the NHL, Florida's team has around 2 percent of an advantage rate, while Minnesota has 11 percent. TO summarize, it can be seen that home field advantage does exist, it just highly depends on the morale and pride of the team that possesses it.
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I agree with the fact that HFA will not have that much of an impact on track due to it not being that much of a "strategy" sport and more of a "just run" sport.
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DeleteNot at all, if your talking about the condition of the track then its mutual for both teams (or however many teams competing)
Deletei agree fully, its not just the fans that are the effect it has to do with how the players go about it
DeleteI think home field advantage exists in almost every sport, if not all of them. In college football the fans are way louder and intense in the SEC. I feel that they are because they live and breathe football down south. The fans are way more into it in the SEC. I think that 12 seed teams would still beat 5 seed teams even if it wasn't a neutral site game. I think travel fatigue plays a big role in the NBA and NFL, because the home team, when facing a distant city team, wins almost 60% of the time. For college football games I think some refs are biased to the home team. An example of that, that makes me really mad, would be when JT Barret was short of the first down but the home refs still gave him the first down.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think of instant replay? Refs can check to see where to place the ball?
DeleteI strongly agree with you on this one. There are some crazy college fans and it can definitely get in the players head when they are really loud
DeleteI think instant replay is pointless because they still get a lot of calls wrong and it takes too long.
DeleteThey may have instant replay and it does wonders and helps but when it's a close play like it was they will almost always go with the home team especially Ohio State
DeleteI think home field advantages do exist. In the slide show it states that one way there is a home field advantage is because of the referees towards to home team. I do agree with this, This is shown throughout most sports games such as football when the home team gets a turnover, or when the visitors get a penalty that shouldn't have been a penalty. Those reasons were found on slide 19. These things also happen in basketball sometimes when I watch the game there will be unfair fouls, or they wont call traveling on the home team. This is unfair in many situations because you don't want your team to get treated any different than the other.
ReplyDeleteMHSAA referees are rated by the coaches after the game. Do you think that might help?
DeleteI think it does help because they could possibly not get that referee again. But for the home team if the referee favored them they could give them a good rating.
DeleteI agree because with football while were away I do notice more unfair fouls than when we are at home.
DeleteI think that HFA definitely exists. It does depend on the sport because some crowds are bigger than others and a crowd can play a huge role in a game. A crowd can influence a referee which can lead to better calls for the home team. Referees also play a bigger role in certain sports than others that's why the win percentages are all different but also all above 50%. Also the bigger the stadium could play a factor too because if you have all these home fans making a ton of noise in a huge stadium its gonna play with the away team's brains.
ReplyDeleteI agree that HFA depends on the sport, because bigger crowds definitely encourage the home players to perform better and distract the visiting players. For example, HFA plays a big role in football because there are so many fans.
DeleteEven though the slideshow says that Home Field Advantage does exist in football through referees generally giving the home team better calls, I personally still think that in college football the calls are even between the teams. Even in the NBA, the crowd noise effecting free throws is 0.0%. However, there is a bias in the NBA based on attendance, in games with more attendance, there are more penalties and vice versa. In the NBA there is also a large difference in the Objective & subjective calls depending on whether home or away. This makes me believe that home field advantage does not exist in football at the college/NFL level, but the home field advantage does take effect in the NBA.
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DeleteI really like the point you stated about attendance and how it can affect the fouls called and penalties. Attendance definitely effects the referees decisions in certain situations.
DeleteI agree, I also think that home field advantage is mostly just the refs being influenced by the crowd to make certain decisions
DeleteHome field advantage definitely exists for several reasons. For starters, referees are often biased towards the home team. This fact can apply to soccer, basketball, football, or baseball. For instance, umpires have home batter and pitcher favoritism. They are more likely to call strikes on the visiting team. On average, visitors get 516 more strike outs than home teams throughout a season. Furthermore, referees accuse visiting teams of more fouls or penalties than the home team. Also, referees are more likely to agree with the crowd if they are unsure of a call due to social pressure. Finally, I think that since there are more fans for the home team, the cheering and encouragement for them is louder and more prevalent, and it boosts the players' confidence and playing ability.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the point you made that referees are often biased towards the home team. This is because of the referees favoritism. I also, agree that being at home with the support of fans and the community it boosts the player's confidence and playing ability. This cheering and encouragement is not always with them when the are away so being had home definitely has an advantage in their playing ability.
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I agree that the referees accuse the visiting team of more fouls than the home team. I've seen this happen in person playing away games for soccer against Monroe or Ann Arbor. Its absolutely brutal, but when it comes to the crowd and parents, the referees usually look to the players for social influence and calls.
DeleteHome field advantage exists in every sport, but it is different in each sport. The home team is usually favored by referees. I think I can agree with that statement because there have been times when I was playing or watching a sport and I saw that first hand. The psychology behind this is how refs go with the group opnion because of social pressure. The refs can also seek information through the crowd or be influenced with how they see it. (Slide 21) Depending on the crowd if they are more vocal or large the more prominent home field advantage is. (Slide 22) No matter what sport, home field advantage exsists in every sport because all the referees are human. Depending on the sport the refs can have a bigger or smaller impact. If you look at the same sport, HFA will be the same throughout that sport because the ref's job is the same.(Slide 26) I think no matter how much time goes by, home field advantage will still exsist.
ReplyDeleteI don't agree with the point that all ref's give the home field advantage to the home team. In my own experiences the ref will do his job and be fair or terrible.
DeleteHome field advantage is definitely a thing, I know from my own experiences that when your playing on your own field everything goes better. Like when there's a stupid call made everyone in the stands will yell and the opponents section will yell back which causes more heat when in the game. The home field advantage hasn't changed over time because the role of the referee has stayed constant so you'll still get the rowdiness. It doesn't matter if your playing soccer, tennis, softball, or even football if the crowd starts to get hype you'll get hype and if the opponents crowd starts to be mean you'll get angry and want to make the other team lose. The tone of the crowd effects the players so much even if they can barely hear it. I got my information from the slide show above and my own experiences.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you because the crowd can effects the players as much as it can effect the refs in the professional level. Players that are pros can tune out the crowd and since they know the game it can increase their drive, but not decrease their performance like younger athletes.
DeleteI would say home field advantage is definitely a thing but different between sports. Like in soccer, if the home team was up by 1 the penalty clock ran for a short time than if the home team was down by 1 for which it ran longer. Also, in NHL shootouts and NFL kickoffs the home team crowd is louder if the opposing team has possession or if its their turn to shoot. The MLB has different sized fields like hitter and pitcher ballparks but it doesn't seem to matter much because the home field advantage is at its lowest. Travel distance doesn't seem to matter between all sports, they all play the same whether is in a cold climate or in a tropical climate. The referee usually looks to social influence and the crowd to seek information, the more ambiguous the call the larger and more vocal the crowd is.
ReplyDeleteI don't agree with the point that all ref's give the home field advantage to the home team. In my own experiences the ref will do his job and be fair or terrible.
ReplyDeleteI don't think home field advantage exist. As seen from the slide show the amount of crowd support in the MLB,NHL, NBA there is little difference in how the players react or play from home field to away field. Also, the Home field advantage (% home wins) is only 1-3 percent difference from that of same city play, distant city, and overall. However, referees play a major role in how the games turn out. In the slides, it shoes that referees make more incorrect calls at high- attendance games than low- attendance. Therefore, this is why I don't think there is a home field advantage.
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I think home field advantage is a thing but it doesn't have as much of an impact on how you actually play, but instead is more like the slideshow said that refs get psychological influenced by the crowds making them tend to make calls better for the home team. In the NHL the home field advantage seems none existent for shoot outs the the percentage differences are a point of a percent and in some cases are slightly better in away games. From personal experience I feel like I do better when people are doubting me so I feel that I do better in away games. Also in away games the other schools tend to have nicer ice which I feel helps me do better.
ReplyDeleteHome field advantage does exist and a game can be highly influenced by a ref. It is the same for every sport because a ref always has the same role in a game. Also, the opposing team may have an advantage based on how their field is made. For example, in soccer, turf makes the ball move faster and if you aren't used to it, that would serve as an advantage to the other team. The crowd also plays a part in the attitude of the team and how they do. If the crowd isn't confident in your team it lowers you moral.
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DeleteI agree that the game can be highly influenced by the ref or umpire. They make all the calls and will sometimes call them unfairly once in a while during a game. Also, I would agree with the crowd affecting the mood of the team, which then may ruin their playing ability.
DeleteI think home field advantage is real. In the slideshow, it states that four facts about home field advantage are that it exists in every sport, it’s different across sports, it’s the same for any given sport no matter where the game is played, and it has been stable over time. I think it definitely depends on what sport is being played to how home field advantage affects the team. For instance, football has a very loud fan base and as long as the players are used to it, it won’t be much different from home to away because the noise level is the same. But for quieter sports like tennis or golf, the noise could definitely mess you up more if you aren’t used to it. I think all fans of the major sports such as football, basketball, and baseball, are about the same intensity in all the conferences. Some conferences may be better than the others, but I think that is mainly because of the talent on the team, not the fan base behind them. The shape and size of the stadium definitely matter if you’re hoping to gain home field advantage. If you aren’t used to the shape or size of a particular field, it could throw you off. For March Madness, I think the neutral playing cites help the 12 vs 5 winning percentage because neither team has home field advantage and it evens the playing field a little more. In the article, it states that 12 seed teams have a winning percentage of 36.7% over 5 seed teams. I think this is because neither team is playing on their own court. I don’t think the proximity to the school has really anything to do with home field advantage besides the amount of people that come to the games. There are probably other things to look at when considering home field advantage such as how popular the school or the sport is, but the data presented is solid as it is.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you that the shape and size of a stadium have a big impact on on gaining home field advantage. I think it make sense that if you aren't used to a particular shape or size of a field it could mess you up, because you are used to playing on your home field.
DeleteIn my opinion, home field advantage does exist and is prominent in most sports no matter the time. There is also an influence from the crowd in that, if they are positive and cheering players on, then the players are in better moods and may fight harder to keep them pleased. However, if the crowd is negative then the complete opposite may happen. Such as the slide that mentions “social influence” which might bring upon social pressure. For example, in some of my games of softball, if we are at our home games we tend to, as a team, be more hyped up, ready to go, and more focused than we would be if we were to travel somewhere else. When we play at home, we get out of school and go right into warm ups and there’s really no time to get unfocused because we are not on a bus getting rowdy. Also, there is the factor of the umpires or ref officials favoring the home team versus the opponents. In some cases, the umpires may give an unfair call to a ball for the opponents than they would for the home team, or as the slides say “home batter and pitcher favoritism”. The neutral sites keep the game fair so that no team can say the others had the home field advantage. At that point it just comes down to whatever team is better. The proximity of of a site to the school would make a difference because you lose a little bit of your momentum. This would be due to your loss of focus to the game after all the boredom and tiredness you have after school catches up to you.
ReplyDeleteI think that home field advantage does exist because the refs tend to favor the home team. At saline a few years ago they cheated on a football game I dont remember how but they did. Also While I was pole vaulting, I had to run a 200m and when I got back he was suppost to give me time to settle down from that and I was also they last on in so it wouldn't even matter but he made me go right away. The refs usually give the away team more fouls according to the slide show. I don't think that it only exists in cirtian sports I think it is in every sport because I didn't think it would ever happen in track, an individual sport but it does. The loudness of the crowd i think matters because if they are only cheering for the home team then the away team feels discouraged. The size of the field should always be the same so I don't think that that plays a role. The way the pole vault pit faces i think plays a little role in how athletes preform because we aren't used to it.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, I think home field advantage does exist. I think home field advantage is more apparent in some sports over others but it definitely still exists throughout all types of sports. I think people always feel more comfortable on their own home field and they are more familiar with the way the court/field is. From my own experience, I feel more comfortable when I play a soccer game at my home field over somewhere else because I more familiar with the way the field is shaped and I am just more comfortable there because I practice and play on it all the time. I also think there are times where the home field team gets more advantages from the referees/umpires. For example, in the slide show it showed that over a season visitors get 516 more strikeouts and 195 fewer walks on the same pitches. Home field advantage is also present because of the number of fans that show up to home games versus away games. Most of the time, a lot more people will show up to watch a home game because it’s close and easier to get to. I think a bigger fan crowd hypes a team up more and pushes them to play better and try harder then they would if they knew they didn’t have anyone watching. I know that in my sport I always try my best, but I tend to want to do a little better/show off a little bit more when I know I have a lot of my friends and family are watching. This is proven on the graph in the slide show, where it shows that there is more of a chance of the home team winning because of the higher attendance, especially in the NBA. In conclusion, I think home field advantage does exist mostly because of the psychological mindset of the players that play on their home field. Most players are convinced that their home field is more comfortable and they are more used to playing there so they automatically assume they will play better.
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ReplyDeleteI do think HFA exists, but not for the reasons most of us think. I believe it has to do more with if the referees support the team, versus if the fans are hyped up and excited, cheering, screaming, etc. On slide 9 of the slideshare we see a table depicting MLB pitcher and batter data at both home and away games. They had nearly no deviation from the mean, the most being for pitchers mean pitch velocity, which was actually slower at home by .09 mph. So the crowd seemed to really have no impact on performance here. We as humans are weak to social pressure, we love to fall in line with the group mentality even if it is the wrong thing to do. So it’s no wonder that referees would call in favor of the home team. Let’s look at umpires for example, they are more likely to call in favor of a home team, if the hit was critical for the team’s success in the game (slide 16). Whereas if the hit is not as important if there is a big score gap.
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I think that home field advantage exists for every sport. For tennis, I believe this exists because you get to know the court well. For example there could be a crack or soft spot on the court, so from playing there all the time, you know to avoid it. On the other hand, your opponent would not know this, so they might have trouble avoiding it. I also think that depending on what conference you play in or even your opponent, that the fans cheer louder because it is a bigger, more intense game. Yes, there are a lot of other factors that play in but cheering plays a small role. The cheering does support the team and players but they are more focused on the game and zone out. For NCAA March Madness I think that the neutral sites help with the 12 v 5 winning percentage because neither team has an advantage. The proximity of a site to the school does make a small difference because you might not be getting the same amount of fans, as if it was a home game. For example, last year I went to Texas for the Michigan football game. There was a ton of Michigan fans, as well as Florida fans, this shows that the fans will travel a long way to support their team. There might not have been as many people at the game compared to a home game but there was still a huge amount of fans. Also this game was held at a neutral site, which was AT&T stadium.
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